Delhi Administration Doctor's Welfare Association

The contractual doctotrs in NDMC are going to be regularized through UPSC and interview dates are to be announce soon. The contractual doctors in GNCTD can make use of this information for their benefit.

A small team of regular doctors become activated as and when the process of regularisation of adhoc/contract doctors is initiated. They wake up from their long slumber whenever somthing postive is done for the contract and ad-hoc docotrs. 

Some regular doctors are in court to hamper the process of regularisation. Their plea is that if regularization if done from back date will affect their seniority. They want that adhoc doctors who joined in 1996 should not become senior to the one who joined in 2006 by upsc. Then what about the those who are joining after 2006 by upsc. Would not they become junior to them. So the process of regularisation should not be stalled. There is a workforce which is by all parameters equally qualified but should not be exploited without giving any credit to their past services Govt. is also happy as it saves a lot of money. Why is this situation continuiing?

hi, i think UPSC will recruit the doctors interviewed. The 2008 batch will follow soon; so why any one should try to stop the interviews. I do not know why people are going to court in a hurry.

Unfortunately my comments have been seen out of context. All along i have always been pro-contractual colleagues and my interaction ( presentation) at DMA on 25th March was reflective of the same. Policy & such decisions are not the prerogative of technical persons even in authority ( even if one wants it to be). Best Wishes to all.

Requesting all to see my earlier posted comments dated 27/9/11. See what has happened yesterday ( of stay on the interviews by UPSC) taken by some professional colleagues. It is apparent that a golden opportunity is likely to be missed. Regularization of pre-2006 batch would have opened doors for all others entrants later. Kalidas story should nto be re-played (who was cutting the branch of tree on which he himself was sitting). Luckily the interviews are being held and this should be all as an opportunity to further their own cause.

Dear Dr. Kumar,

Sorry for the late response. You would see that we had many meetings lines up one after another and we have nothing like a secretariat for DADWA.

I agree that it is unfortunate that extension of doctors is delayed and consequently their salary is released late. All such affected doctors should send a mail to secretarydadwa@rediffmail.com giving their name, designation and place of work with details of the quarters when it was delayed in past one year, so that this can be formally taken up with H&FW Dept. Ideally they should make a representation through their respective institutions.

-Secretary DADWA.

Dear Sir

         no assurance has been given from DADWA side till today regarding the issue raised by me. DADWA as the name suggest should deal with the problems of both the streams of doctors. there should not be any discrimination between the doctors.

I want to request to the president DADWA to kindly discuss the matter of extension of the contract doctors with concerned, during the next meeting, because most of the time it takes three to four months after the expiry of the period,which causes undue harrasment of us. 

Dear Dr Amit

you have commented how can a contract doctor claim seniority over regular UPSC selected doctor but I think you are not aware this is happening in some hospitals. They are not only claiming they have been  even given seniority in respect to very senior medical officers. Now you only decide whether it is justified.

Amit has a very valid point. Something that was done to tide over an exigency; either the officer appointed on contract continues to serve after regularization withing 90 days or he/she is replaced by another suitable candidate. It is a pity that people continued to be granted letters for extension of their service every 3 months after a break.

I recall while working as MS of GGSG Hospital that one contractual doctor sought my permission to go and get her letter of extension as one clerk had informed her that the same was ready. I said, "Why you should go? It is my responsibility as head of this hospital administration to get you your extension. Just as you performed your duties well, the hospital should do its bit also."

dear amit, delhi govt had taken adhoc doctors to expand its demanding health services; but adhoc  canot continue for 10 yrs.the govt should have discontinued the services after six months as is the rule.

28-6-07

Dear Dr. Amit,  Dr. Narayan, Dr. Arun and ....

I do not know if you are aware that we decided to edit the views for past few weeks when some very nasty and unparmialmentary remarks came up on this websire. Earlier it was a free for all website with no facility to edit or modify comments but this was changed after an executive meeting.

Please note that under no circumstances this website can be allowed to be used as a medium to encourage fights and divisions. The views are expected to be polite, brief and in the larger interest of the doctors.

We reserve our right to delete/edit/modify any comment and the publisher is not expected to exercise any right. Nor is this website a forum to give threats or register grievance. for this one is expected to send a mail directly to secretarydadwa@rediffmail.com or to info@dadwa.com giving self details.

Expression of a view is not an end in itself. It is meant to interest others. The legal battle nor any kind of ill-will should be brought on the website. The fight between employers and employees is degenerating into a fight between employee and employee. Some one is smiling. Guess who?

-Secretary DADWA

Dear Moderator / Secy. DADWA (Everybody knows that Secy DADWA is the Moderator),

Till yesterday, I believed  that the  "Views & Comments" link on our website allows us to express our feelings & thoughts. And it promotes group discussion & lets us know the views of our members withuot actually meeting them personally.

However, after seeing what is published as comments against my name yesterday, all this belief has simply evaporated instantly. And the faith in you probably gone.

I had not written the comments the way they have been published/ shown. My thoughts were entirely different.

Specialists Association people have been time & again saying everywhere the same about your character. But we HAD unflinching faith in you. Now  its gone.

I HAVE FORWARDED THIS MESSAGE TO MANY MEMBERS & SHALL CONTINUE TO DO SO TO MANY MORE EVERYDAY FOR FEW DAYS so that at leasttruth comes out at the earliest.

I assure you that this would definitely be discussed in General Body Meeting of DADWA.

If you are honest, then have courage & let at least this letter come AS IT IS and let it be there for two weeks on the site for many members to read & opine. Let see if you have the courage Or you  would "tamper with" this also criticizing me for my comments & giving some non palatable explanations that it amounts to insulting. And if it amounts to INsult then what is that which you are doing with our feelings??

I demand an urgent explanation & apology from you for this misdeed.

You can write to me personally , if you cant gather courage to write upfront here.

You are probably playing with the thoughts of your members & I strongly feel that you are using this website for your personal gains & advantages.

All the best Sir.

AMIT

Dear Amit,-------

  You are right that the adhoc/contract doctors as they are not appointed reglarly. UPSC is a selecting body only in case of doctors in Govt. service; if not selected a doctor will remain a doctor who will now do the same nature of work in pvt. sector. It means UPSC is not testing our qualification. You compare it with other non-technical exam as civil service where the candidates come from different streams and are judged for a particular type of work  regardless of their qualification. In this case the UPSC is not only a selecting body but also a 'qualifying' body where it qualify the candidates for a particular job or work say administrative or more appropriatly 'managerial'.

Now the question arise:--

1. Why did Delhi Govt. invite for contractual appointments when it already had a channel to recruit doctors? If it was an exigency that exigency did never arised overnight. The posts against which docs were recruited were lying vacant for a long time.

2. What is the fault of the candidates who responded to the adv.? Had those posts were notified through UPSC all the eligible candidates could get chance to come through the UPSC AND would have called 'regular' doctors and got the deserving seniorty as other regular doctors.

Regarding the terms and conditions of the appointment Govt. must act as an ideal employer and should not set different rules for different employee with similar nature of work. A candidate who is seeking a job is in need of a job and should not be exploited at least at the hand of Govt.

Dear Dr.Narayan,

May I request you not to "emotionalize" the issue of adhoc'ism & adhoc'ists being given unfair treatment.

No one can snatch someone's "bread, butter, jam etc". Comn man, dont lose heart. There is hardly any opposition for regularization of adhoc docs from the beaurocrats even though they are the one responsible for this situation but just Ask yourself honestly the following:

-Did you not know clearly that the appointment was temporary in the first place and that it was devoid of some beneifts of seniority etc. that are associated with regular appintment?

-Did adhoc candidates during their period of adhoc job , not try for UPSC Exam/ Interview, whenever the seats were advertised?

As per my information I put herein some FACTS

1. No regular appointment in any Govt. job( Class I & II) can be made without facing UPSC. This is the proper method of regularization and definitely you stand a fair chance for selection.

3. The issue complicates further if you consider the following:

There are adhoc docs working since 7-8 years and there are some who are appointed just 5-6 months back. The 18th Dec 2006 cut-off date is arbritarily as decided by Delhi Govt. and defies all logic .

- What will be the seniority vis a vis regular Docs: To me this appears to be the only issue disturbing the regular colleagues. Honestly, How can a contactual/adhoc employee claim to be senior to someone who was appointed by UPSC a constitutional body created for this purpose.

-Supreme Court Decisions:

Adhoc friends are simply relying on one off incidence of a similar regularization which was made many years ago in entirely different circumstances.  

There have been SERIES of Supreme Court decisions time & again, in different states of the country, by multiple judge bench, all categorically stating that Adhoc / Temporary / Contract appontments are to be regularised only through a proper selection process till their jobs get regularised .

It might be difficult for adhoc seniors to compete with freshers in UPSC exam. So rather than wanting to have cakes in mouth, both hands & feet also, wisdom should prevail amongst us & we should request Delhi Govt. to simply REGULARIZE US FROM THE PRESENT DATE WITHOUT ASKING US TO FACE ANY INTERVIEW AT ALL (even if it is a formality). This would automatically cut down the opposition from the UPSC appointed regular colleagues

And by adopting this policy, you will not lose your's & your family's bread, butter & jam.

Even though the matter is sub-judice, DADWA supports regularization of contractual and ad-hoc doctors and is against all future ad-hoc/contractual appointments for doctors. It would however appeals that the executive takes an open and holistic view of the problem. Solution should not create further problems.

It would be appreciated if the member reveals his identity and mentions his email ID as well. Anonymous views may not be published on the website.

-Secretary DADWA

We were hoping the members would respond to the view above. DADWA is the opinion that appointments on contract and on ad-hoc basis should have no place in DHS and those appointed already should get a fair chance to be regularized as per Govt. policy/rules.

-DADWA 

While every one is talking of options for CHS officers there is no talk about regularization of contractual/ad-hoc doctors who are serving for several years now.

If DHS has to be healthy and better than CHS the sole deteriminant would be its ability to give a  better future to everyone. One group should not treat itself as 'more equal' than others, or else the system would compromise the voice and self respect of doctors.