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Posted By Dr M C agarwal
Posted On 10-05-2016
Comments Earlier CHS and now DHS also surviving by dividing doctors community in many groups and using their energy against one another so that no one can dare to disturb them. Though number of group A doctors in DHS are more than 1200 and every one including MS,s are cribbing against the high headedness of AAP government but no one has courage to organise our colleagues to unite and show our strength to force govt not to take illegal decision or ignore doctors interest as done by posting Dr Tarun Seem,on all imp posts, a resident doctor of our time who has forgotten the basic manners, how to talk to his seniors leave aside courteous nature. Its our right to have a one among us ,a DHS cadre doctor as our DGHS and a courteous senior IAS officer as our health Secretary. WE HAVE TO UNITE AND FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHT NOW.
Posted By Dr M C agarwal
Posted On 10-05-2016
Comments Earlier CHS and now DHS also surviving by dividing doctors community in many groups and using their energy against one another so that no one can dare to disturb them. Though number of group A doctors in DHS are more than 1200 and every one including MS,s are cribbing against the high headedness of AAP government but no one has courage to organise our colleagues to unite and show our strength to force govt not to take illegal decision or ignore doctors interest as done by posting Dr Tarun Seem,on all imp posts, a resident doctor of our time who has forgotten the basic manners, how to talk to his seniors leave aside courteous nature. Its our right to have a one among us ,a DHS cadre doctor as our DGHS and a courteous senior IAS officer as our health Secretary. WE HAVE TO UNITE AND FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHT NOW.
Posted By rakesh
Posted On 18-10-2015
Comments Sir, It is not possible that Delhi government can appoint a DHS/CHS officer of 15-20 years of service again on any cadre post. I agree that some vital information is being hidden and government does not want the most eligible officers to apply and make them work under a junior appointing as MS. But how could the existing MS agree? I would like to seek comments of the seniors.
Posted By Admin
Posted On 05-09-2015
Comments Dear Dr. Rachit, If I were you, I would taken this order as an opportunity and a challenge to prove my metal. You should not presume that everything in government is bad and corrupt. Besides you are not helpless. As an officer, you have the choice to seek training, seek help and guidance, not do act in haste or under pressure, refuse anything that is not in accordance to rules etc. If your superior asks for something that you do not think you can not do, you have right to seek his orders in in writing. Your boss and his boss are obliged to help you, guide you, listen to you and take you seriously. They are your official channel of help. Besides help is also available to you through DADWA of which I am sure are a member. I would strongly recommend that you should comply to the order of the government. Secretary DADWA
Posted By Dr Rachit
Posted On 17-08-2015
Comments Sir ... I am being transferred from my hospital to cpa.I have only 8 months of service. Inspire of my repeated requests they are forcing me to join or will take admin action. I have niether applied nor expressed my desire to join CPA. Secretary initially said yes for stopping of transfer but now they are not listening. Kindly help in this regard.I do not wish to join CPA at such young age without any experience.
Posted By Admin
Posted On 16-08-2015
Comments Dear Dr. Patel, Did you apply online when requests were sought by H&FW Department for transfer? If not give an application citing reason for the same. Try to have a mutual transfer with some other doctor who wants to come to GTBH. Try to take help and guidance from your Additional MS also.
Posted By Dr Deepak Patel
Posted On 16-07-2015
Comments I have joined as GDMO in DHS in March 2015 in gtb hospital delhi , i want transfer from gtb hospital, what procedure should i follow.
Posted By Dr J J Tambe
Posted On 09-08-2012
Comments Dear Dr Rai, i joined CHS as child specialist and posted where only few pediatrics cases are present. is there any way to rejvinate my skills. UPSC essential criteria for eligibility is MD with post MD 3 yrs experince. and after selection ministry post me in CGHS kanpur where they do not know for permission for conference
Posted By Admin
Posted On 05-08-2012
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Dear Dr. H.P. Singh, We have taken note of your views and of the complaint. This case is dear to us and let me take this opportunity to put some facts before you and our members,

1. This case is not a PIL but a case filed by DADWA and 8 other petitioners in Delhi High Court. All India GDMO Assocn. (Dr. B.B. Jena) had filed a petition about 10 years back and due to an adverse observation we had first filed an appeal before Delhi High Court last year and allowed us to file this case afresh in CAT without prejudice to the earlier judgement.

2. CAT heard this case but dismissed our petition. This judgement we wish to challenge in high court. Since stakes are high and we do not wish our petition to be dismissed we did a lot of ground work, collected papers and notification of other states and filed this case two months back.

3. Since interest of thousands of doctors is affected, we decided not to take any chance and engaged a senior advocate. You along with others were present in his chamber when our advocate briefed him before the court vacation.

4. We clarify that the question is not of your or of retirement of 8 petitioners (five out of who since retired) but the fact that none of us can afford to loose the case at admission stage.

5. You are aware that daily hundreds of petitions are not admitted by the courts and we would not like to be driven by our or your wish but the advice of our advocates.

6. From DADWA side I assure you we will not fight this case half-hearted. But by admitting that you are retiring in Oct. 2012 you seem to have accepted defeat without our advocate arguing.

There are no guarantees in courts and one may win or lose. But with desire to win, sincere effort, good lawyers (and money to pay them) we stand a good chance. So we take chance and He decides the win.

Now please give the money collected by you at GBPH for DADWA to DADWA as promised by you once the case comes next week. We mean no offense.

Happy friendship day!     -Dr. Vijay Rai, Secretary DADWA

Posted By Dr. H.P.Singh
Posted On 30-07-2012
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Dear all, I am retiring in the month of October 2012. For last few months DADWA is telling that it will file a PIL for enhancement of retiring age of GDMOs but that day is yet to come. Several doctors have since retired but had any  office bearere of DADWA been retiring then it would have been done without wasting even a single minutes. Lastly I can say DADWA should think seriously about this matter and do needful earliest. With regards to all, -Dr. H.P. Singh

Posted By Admin
Posted On 20-07-2012
Comments Dear Dr. Pankaj, you are correct. Thanks for the feedback and we stand corrected on our blog. -Secretary DADWA
Posted By pankaj
Posted On 07-07-2012
Comments It is mentioned in DHS rules that promotion up to SAG is without linkage to vacancy(para 4 subpara 7).It means all officers in DHS cadre should get time bound promotion till SAG.I request president DADWA to comment on this.
Posted By Admin
Posted On 07-07-2012
Comments Dear Dr. Dutta, We have taken note of your observation. In fact this issue was brought to the notice of the Director of Health Services who manages the scheme. This clearly a favor of the bureaucracy to itself but DADWA will take up this matter with Govt. -Secretary DADWA
Posted By Admin
Posted On 07-07-2012
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Dear Dr. Anil, You concern is genuine. Ideally the GNCTD should honor its commitment given in Honorable CAT in the case filed by DADWA (refer to our last months) that all CHS doctors opting for DHS will be given all benefits of service in CHS. But the notified Service Rules of DHS do not state so. Therefore the Govt. can any time express regrets on this basis and take a stand in the court that the doctors at the time of giving options were well aware of the rule position. If the Govt. were gentlemen, they should amend the rules suo moto, but we are in any case taking this up with Delhi Govt. shortly. Please follow the message board. -Secretary DADWA

Posted By Dr. D . Dutta
Posted On 17-06-2012
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Dear colleagues and respected members of DADWA, I find it very shocking that till date not a single Doctor who are drawing Grade pay 8700/ and above have not raised the point about DGEHS entitlement. Where even an Administrative officer with lower grade pay is allowed to visit any Govt approved private hospital but Doctors drawing salary wth GP 8700/- and above  still need a referal to go to a Govt apprved private hospital

i would like the DADWA executive body to look into the matter and i hope everyone who is affected will agree with my view. Thanks

Posted By Dr. Anil Kr.
Posted On 04-03-2012
Comments I have completed 20 years of service and had opted for DHS. I am not in the list of SAG declared so far or in those who are now being considered. My ACR's are OK but now the MOHFW has stated that my ties with it are severed. Is Delhi Govt. not obliged to promote me to SAG scale? Please advise.
Posted By Admin
Posted On 02-02-2012
Comments Some non-members have been asking what DADWA is doing about middle level and young doctors of CHS. We request all such members to let us know what they want from DADWA noting that DADWA takes up common issues for service doctors with special focus on cadre management, time-bound promotions etc. It may appear to some that we talk about SAG and HAG mostly. This is so because these are the benefits that the Govt. does not want to give to the youngsters. If their seniors loose this fight how can they get it? Suggestions and comments are welcome. Secretary DADWA
Posted By Dr.Rajive Kumar Dikshit
Posted On 20-09-2011
Comments Hi, I am from Uttarakhand medical & health & family welfare Services why not We all ask Central Govt. to mearge all Porvencial medical & Health services to Indian Medical Services . +919411559850
Posted By Doctor
Posted On 09-08-2007
Comments The views posted on the message board are real mature thoughts and the views of majority of us.I hope we live upto them and make our profession a real cohesive one, which takes its other colleagues along and help in each others success rather than looking for lacunae in them and exploiting them for vicarious pleasures
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Posted On 27-07-2007
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It was a wonderful idea on the part of DADWA executive to have started this website as an excellent platform to express our views. I appreciate the efforts of our leaders in this regard. I feel confident taht DADWA would achieve its goal under this leadership if all stand behind them. I think it is a nice idea that DHS should have only two stream of doctors instead of multiple streams. Graduates can work in hospitals and dispensaries with facilities to augment their careers. Teaching responsibility should be competitive and open to all who think have a flare to do so. Imagine the future if doctors grow out of their narrow outlook within defined labels as GDMO, Specialists (non-teaching and teaching) and as many types of contractual/adhoc doctors. PLEASE STAND UNITED AND ACHIEVE THE HIGHEST. LONG LIVE DOCTORS UNITY!

Posted By ARUN KUMAR
Posted On 25-07-2007
Comments I think instead of categorising the VIEWS/COMMENTS in different sub categories (sub cadres) all the views may be presented or displyed under one single category (common cadre) as all the views pertain to us and interest all. Everybody should know about these and there should be no need to clik several times to know all the views.   
Posted By Dr. Vijay Rai
Posted On 18-07-2007
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There is vision and substance in the views above. Any hospital administrator would agree that hospital services need and deploy not only doctors but various types of health personnel. Doctors also are required to perform functions that are integral to the working of a hospital. It is a bad policy to call one function superior to another and to label people as superior or inferior. Take example of human body which is a perfect example of co-ordinated action by all systems for its well being. Which organ or system can one sacrifice just because it is less important!!

Posted By dr sunil chakravarty
Posted On 18-07-2007
Comments I FULLY AGREE  WITH  Dr D K DIWAN.IN THE FIRST PLACE THERE WAS NO NEED FOR COMPARTMENTALISATION ,THE VERY FACT THAT PG MOS ARE REQUIRED IN HOSPITALS PROVES THIS. PG MOs ARE EXPOSED TO DISADVANTAGE IS TRUE.WE ALL MUST WORK FOR BETTER WORKING CONDITIONS AND IMPROVE OUR LOT RATHER THAN WASTING OUR ENERGY & TIME IN NITY GRITTY . 
Posted By d k dewan
Posted On 06-06-2007
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Having been 'in' for >26 yrs now & also tasted UN experience ( 2 yrs) my views:

CHS officers in general and those with health/hospital adm. qualification  are better suited for management of health instead of the Generalist administrators (e.g. DANICS) Service conditions of majority of us are far below our entitled status even when they are outside Delhi admn .

Salaries, perks & priviledges ( telephone, vehicle, office parapheralia etc.) need be available as per need and rate of re-imbursement is to be raised with tax exemption on > 75 % of our income in view of service to the Humanity. We are not working any less than what one does in UN! MO cadre should also be entitled to Annual leave as is available to teaching cadres

Lastly doctors must learn to live to resolve their internal differences or else leave peacefully with them. Remove barriers between various types of doctors viz. ad-hoc/recular, MOs/specialists/teachers etc. Ad-Hocs are also our colleagurs working with us despite facing  disdain & humiliations day in & day out. After all what is their fault in being adhoc for 8-9 yrs now?  MOs with PG should be be utilized as specilaists in public interest and designated so. ( IT SHOULD BE OUR ENDEAVOR)

Pls treat it as my personal thoughts without any malice to anyone.

regards, --- Dewan, DK

Posted By Admin
Posted On 05-05-2007
Comments The exact terms of reference are "to deal with any issue relating to smooth transition of the CHS Officers to Delhi Health Service." I personally think the terms should have been more specific and better worded. -Secretary DADWA
Posted By Dr Rajesh Kalra
Posted On 02-05-2007
Comments

dear sir,

what are the specific terms and references of the committe to formulate DHS

Posted By dr v k agarwal
Posted On 22-04-2007
Comments dear friends, i am about to retire from chs in few years but i have to be bold enough to admit that, i have not been100% sure about my rights/privileges/entitlements as chs-officer in various stages( m.o.,s.m.o.,c.m.o.,cmo-nfsg , sag etc) of promotion etc. well i will like to know these all and request the admn to put it on site for wider reference and benefit to all and me too i am sure there are many more ignorent like me and will get benefited many drs. may agree that these are not told by fellow officers or chs /govt/hospital to us and we have to hunt and find these in tit bits from here nad there,which may be or may not be correct and wholesome. with regards dr agarwal v k

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